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Audible Audiobook
Listening Length: 48 hours and 55 minutes
Program Type: Audiobook
Version: Unabridged
Publisher: Random House Audio
Audible.com Release Date: July 12, 2011
Whispersync for Voice: Ready
Language: English, English
ASIN: B005C7QVUE
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This books dust jacket proudly mentions that George R. R. Martin is known as the "American Tolkien". With all due respect, besides both working in the genre of middle age fantasy they have almost nothing in common. The Tolkien trilogy was published in its entirety in less than two years. The complete story adhered to traditional rules of storytelling with a beginning, buildup, climax and ending and the reader knew the general path the story was going down and what an expected conclusion would look like (destroying the Ring of Doom) while Martin's book is essentially just a chronicling of events in sort of a swords and sorcery soap opera. Martin is now in his fifth book with at least two more planned. The first book was publishing in 1996 and at this pace would likely not finish before 2023 meaning it would optimistically span 27 years and that's IF Martin actually ends the series after seven books as he's predicting. I think there's pretty good odds the series may get extended. My copy of the Lord of the Rings trilogy is 1008 pages long, 32 pages less than A Dance with Dragon's. The audio disc for this book is over TWO SOLID DAYS LONG!!! There is an appendix at the end of the book with a couple lines of dialogue describing each character. It's 53 pages long. In other works Tolkein's masterpiece is a quick sprint compared to Martin ultra marathon.I finally finished the marathon that is `A Dance With Dragons' and all the criticisms that have been leveled again George R.R. Martin are on display here. Martin is all over the place introducing storylines and characters and then dropping them. This book is the compliment to `A Feast for Crows' focusing on the characters and storylines omitted from that book. We revisit Bran Stark, Jon Snow, Tyrion Lannister. So after 959 pages what exactly happened? Let me just say a lot less than one might expect given the length. Martin's writing is as superb as always and this may be his best yet but he writes like he suffers from attention deficit disorder. The storyline with Bran was quite intriguing but before the half way point of the book it just stops. Likewise we spend a bit of time with Davos Seaworth before Martin seems to just forget he exists. Of all the storylines the one with Stannis Baratheon was the one that had me the most riveted but with several hundred pages left in the book Martin stopped writing about Stannis leaving his fate for the next book.Ah, the next book, `The Winds of Winter'. Based on the writer's current pace I would expect it no earlier than 2017 at which point all the cliffhangers will be distant memories. Martin spends a bit of time in the latter half of the book on the OTHER half of the characters (Cersei, Jamie, Arya etc..) It had been so long since I'd read `A Feast for Crows' that I'd completely forgotten that Cersei had been imprisoned. It's really hard to be on the edge of your seat for 6 years. It's not that I'm asking George Martin to crank up his productivity but I wish he could focus. The storyline with Davos could have been jettisoned with no effect on the greater book and he is just one of a ton of extraneous characters including Victarion Greyjoy and Quenyn Martell that do little to advance the main storyline. Martin is so good with characterization it feels blasphemous to ask him to trim characters but there has to be a limit or this series will never end which would be tragic for those who have stuck with it for 15 years.As might be evident by the title this book focuses on Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons who are getting closer to full maturity. Many of the surrounding storylines revolve around this central thread. Tyrion has long since been my favorite character and he's used tremendously but sadly his role is essentially inconsequential and again could probably have been trimmed. We get to peer within the very mysterious Lady Melisandre but again Martin only seems to tease and just when I really wanted to see more of her Martin gave me less. Sometimes I wonder if I regret ever getting into the series and not because it's bad but because it's so good. Time will tell whether we actually ever see an ending but I shall try and patiently wait for the next book and see if my memory can last the length of time until it's published.
How, HOW is this book averaging 4 1/2 stars?? When did abject overwriting and lack of plot advancement warrant such a rating? Here were my thoughts going into this book (Spoilers):1. Surely Daenerys would finally at least BEGIN her journey to Westeros to claim the Iron Throne with her super Unsullied army. - Nope (But ANOTHER Targaryen, whom the reader has spent a whole 30 seconds with, is poised to fight for the throne).2. Surely we'd see a good, dramatic trial for Cersei. - Not a chance.3. Surely Tyrion would do something, ANYTHING to get the story moving. - Negative.4. Surely the White Walkers would finally factor into the story. - No.5. Surely Stannis would wreak havoc in the North and at least somewhat avenge the annihilation of the Starks and be a real threat for claiming the throne. - Sorry.6. Surely Dorne would begin to play a larger role in the Game of Thrones. - Don't be silly.7. Surely Bran will begin to play a part in all of this. - Not quite. He's a tree now. Or a crow. I'm not really certain.How can Martin write SO many pages yet have so little happen? I mean, if you want to know what a character is eating to break their fast, or what color someone's surcoat or tokar is, or what color the bricks of a city are that day, or that words are wind, then this book will be riveting to you. And are we supposed to care more about Westeros or Essos? Becasue ADWD sure is Essos-centric. In fact, 99% of Martin's world seems to be made up of it, with the people living there viewing Westeros as some insignificant backwater. Reading AGoT, I thought that part of the world would just be a jumping-off point for Daenerys. But no, it now has become the virtual main setting of ASOIAF. Why did Martin make that decision? I want to find out what happens in Westeros. Or do I? I'm not sure what the reader is supposed to be focused on because Martin is just all over the place. Toward the end of the book, Dany hallucinates and talks to Jorah Mormont who reiterates that he told her to go to Westeros because Meereen was not where she belonged. I felt as if Martin was mocking us because it's what every frickin' reader would have told her as well. So why did you make us read hundreds of pages about her fretting away in Meereen?! And, at the end, she seemingly ends ups in the same place she was in AGoT!There are also numerous characters whom I think Martin wants us to be invested in, but we just aren't because they're either not too interesting or they get lost in this morass of a book. I'm sure some readers do, but do most of us care at all about characters like Asha, Victarion, and Euron? Even Theon/Reek got old by the second half of the book. And honestly, are we supposed to care about what happens to the the billions of people in Meereen like the Brazen Beasts, Stormcrows, Sons of the Harpy, Hizdahr, etc.? Everyone in Meereen, save a couple, are pretty much terrible people and I couldn't care less what their ultimate fate is.And let's talk about Quentyn Martell. He and his journey to court Dany get no little page time, but the only purpose he serves is to free the dragons. That's it. Now that's fine, but there was no reason for Martin to spend the chapters he did on him if he was a simple plot device.Lastly, everything in this series is miserable and depressing; and this is coming from someone who LIKES dark books and movies. But, my goodness, nothing uplifting at all happens. It's just one gloomy event after another and everyone is either angry, oppressed, or psychotic. Martin goes out of his way to ensure that absolutely nothing remotely pleasant happens. I understand there are books with such tones, but after nearly 5,000 pages of it, you get a bit worn down. I know a big appeal of the series are the "gray" characterizations, and I agree, but does nearly everyone have to be a murderous sociopath with no regard for human life? This worked in the first three books because we weren't sure what characters we were going to root for or against. But now, we know who has a shred of decency or not and the incessant melancholy is tiresome.This was the first book which I had to put down and read another book in between with before mustering up the motivation to finish. Usually, I'd just abandon a book I wasn't enjoying, but after reading 4,000 pages of the series I couldn't quit on it. Books 1-3 were fantastic. A Feast For Crows began the downslide but I figured it was merely setup. But ADWD was even worse than setup because NOTHING HAPPENS. I'm really torn over whether I'll read The Winds of Winter if and when it's released. I don't think I have it in me to read another novel like ADWD. I only started this series a few months ago, so I read all these books back-to-back (excluding the one I read three-quarters of the way through ADWD to keep my sanity), so I saw the decline of storytelling with this series happen in real time.
I did not get involved with the TV show when it first came out, although my entire family was obsessed with it. I like to read the book that movie/TV projects are based on before I see how characters are portrayed, as I like to see the characters and story in my own mind first. OMG...this author is amazing. The word painting is incredible, he is able to transport readers in to his world, and he leaves you desperately wanting more. I still have not seen one single episode, but I have seen far more of this world than any viewer has. Great book. Now, that being said, I am livid that the story simply STOPS, leaving every single character and situation hanging in limbo. There is no resolution for anyone or anything. Oh, please, Mr. Martin, finish this series before I am forced to contaminate my perceptions by finally watching the show (which I know does not follow the book exactly, and geez, how does your mind pictures compare to the commercial pictures?). Fortunately, or not, my daughters and I spend a lot of time discussing what they are seeing versus what I am reading, and I at least have some idea where my beloved Tyrion goes. And that is the only reason I gave this a 4 star instead of the 10 star it so deserves.
So many dead-end story lines. So many dead-end characters. You could argue that this reflects the real world accurately, but if stories reflected the real world accurately they’d be too boring to finish. That’s where this one is going.
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